joining us with his take is john hofmeister, former president of shell oil. do you have any sense how quickly these refineries will restart with 70% of refining capacity in this part of the country shutdown? >> ended the best of circumstances once you shutdown it takes between five and ten days to get up and running. unless you find damage. if you have been flooded chances are you could have similar optical damage if your electricals were on the ground level so we don't know yet. i keep reading everything i can read to see what is being reported that something else to worry about our, our the porks damage? the northeast gets a lot of its fuel supplies from europe or the caribbean by ship and so if the ports are damaged with that huge surge, that could be another issue in terms of supply. normally there's a three to four week supply available and there shouldn't be an immediate outage of general supply but at the retail level or the depot level, if you don't have electricity you are out of business and that the strain on the stations that do have electricity s